Help Zac Suceed with His New 75 Gallon Saltwater Start-Up Tank

 One of the first members here in the AquariumID group is Zac. He has JUST upgraded from a 10 gallon to a 75 gallon saltwater tank. Let's help him succeed with our experience and assistance.

 I hope you are cool with this Zac! Ha, if not I can remove he page.  I thought this would be a novel and helpful way newer marine aquarists, to start a Help Zac's Reef discussion.

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Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 11:09pm
sometimes people with fish only saltwater tanks run them at 1.022 just to avoid the problem of parasites. just f.y.i
Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 10:30pm

Run at 1.023 for now slowly

Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 10:29pm

Yep. For now that is too high. Especially if you suspect parasites. Parasites don't like low gravity and thrive when high...hence the so called "fresh water dip" method works sometimes. Yor fish is too stressed to dip I imagine, and that is last ditch effort. Pull out ~2.5 gal and top off w/RO-DI water ONLY

Comment by Zack on January 28, 2013 at 10:26pm
My gravity was just barely I over 1.026 is tht bad?
Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 9:50pm

Ich? What is your gravity?

Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 9:49pm

Too small. You should get one rated for 150. I hope it is not a sea clown...I mean SesClone skimmer coming.

Anyway, at this point I imagine it is a hang on back (HOB) Skimmer? Oh, there are many good ones nowadays, the sea-clone not being one of them (hope I don't get grief for that).

Comment by Zack on January 28, 2013 at 9:22pm
I have a protein skimmer rated for 100 gallons coming I dnt really remember the name of it but I will get back to u on tht and I will b sure to check out your website but I got this protein skimmer from a friend tht works at the pet store I traded him two flowerhorn cichlids for it and it seems to b a pretty good deal but yea I've already invited a couple ppl to try meet reef and aquarium I.D and ill continue to do so and I appreciate all the advice my power filters pump out 400 gallons an hour and I have two of them.. My tang is rubbing on the bottom does tht mean parasites?
Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 9:10pm

No, not the cycle itself. Urchins are rather tough. They do great in refugiums and stuff full of algaes and whatnot, and are not as sensitive to nitrates as that tang. If you don't let nitrates get too high (40ppm max while cycling) they should survive. Don't let it get  above 40ppm though, even when cycling. Ultimately it will be 0-0.05.

Urchin's will eat algae, and I suspect the "moss" you speak of is leftover algae from cichlid tank? Urchin will be fine on the filter. He is eating.

You need more live rock! You asked once what I suggested, and I would say 75-100 lbs.live rock in your 75 gallon tank for best success. You will also need good water movement. Really good. You should be moving at least 10X tank volume per hour ~7,500 GPH circulation. When you add a sump your "turnover rate" should be about another 5X the volume of the tank ( an overflow of 400GPH would be perfect fit, since you won't be drilling internal overflows (more on that later).

What protein skimmer do you "have coming", and why didn't you ask my price first? I treat folks well at SaltwaterEddies.com, especially when corresponding. Nothing can be advertised below MAP, but we can...

But I digress, what was the question? oh ya the urchins. Least of worries. HOWEVER, a scared urchin can foul your entire tank with its ejecta! (never seen that happen though). However, our friend AquariumID here smashed one in a move once...what a mess that made! They only cost about $12 anyway. They do good things while cycling, but not so good when trying to grow frags!

Now, be careful not to consult too many people on certain issues. The folks here will be straight up if they don't know and answer. Be ware that not all LFS's will give such sound advice, some just want to sell

Anyway, my help will be very useful if you take advantage of it . I am a chemist with 15 years in this hobby, have gone through many phases and have my own marine supply store.

We need more folks in the AquariumID Group, could you invite some in?

We also need some more folks in this thread here to confirm my suggestions, or to point out any errors I may make and join us in the mission to make you proud of your tank.

Comment by Zack on January 28, 2013 at 8:03pm
Do u think the cycle will kill my urchins?
Comment by Zack on January 28, 2013 at 7:34pm
Well the guy I gave my cichlids to gave me the urchins and the tang and blue damsel thts the only reason I did tht but yea I'm gonna hold off til my tank is cycled and I got the moss off of one of my filters but the urchin is sitting against the other filter and I'm kinda scared of it lol
Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 7:26pm
look at the fundamentals tab on aquariumID, and scroll to the bottom and look at "what is a sump"
Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 7:14pm
keep those filters intakes clean get rid of your plants. plants and macro algae are for rrfugiums and sumps.
it is much too early to have bought that yellow tang. the little fish might make it that I haven't many hopes for the tang.
was that a puffer I saw you in there? those PUFFERS can live in both fresh and salt but should have much acclimation. besides that they will get that any inverts or shrimps you add to your tank. I would see if you could take the other tang back, or else aftrr the yellow tang dies I would wait for that tank to cycle before buying any more fish
Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 7:07pm
cool. I would also turn off that air stone to avoid salt spray
Comment by Zack on January 28, 2013 at 7:02pm

im about to order a t5 light i think but id like some suggestions on what kind of light would be best at a reasonable price

Comment by Zack on January 28, 2013 at 7:01pm

well thts just the same rock u can just see all or it now  ive got 35 lbs on the waybut im not sure how much tht is its not much  and also have a protein skimmer on the way.. how much rock do u recommend for 75 gallons and i have emperor 400 power filters but i plan on making a sump out of the ten gallon i have watched the videos on aquarium id about diy sumps and i plan on going and getting some custom cut acrylic tomorrow or the next day and setting it up when i get my protein skimmer and yea im gonna replace the background too im gonna get a black one do u think thatd be a good idea? and also i dnt kno what kind of LED light tht is it didnt come in a box it just came with the tank but its made by marine land and it has the blue moonlight

Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 6:52pm
I'd like to know what kind of LED lighting you're using and what kind of filters and water movement you have. also I'd like to see that green background removed. how much live rock do you have now. what is all your basic equipment. if you don't have a protein skimmer you should get 1. if you still have that old 10 gallon tank laying around that could be a starter sump for you.
Comment by Greg Watkins on January 28, 2013 at 1:21am

I see, that's even better. I hope to bring in more people to watch the thread and comment where applicable. The hardest thing will be patience...

Comment by Zack on January 28, 2013 at 12:31am
I actually only had my ten gallon set up for a few days so I'm completely new to saltwater I only had it to house the fish I was gonna use in my 75. The 75 was a cichlid tank but I converted to saltwater today so I dnt kno hardly anything I could really use the help..


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